Archive for January 10th, 2007

Clinton, Carter to Reshape Baptist Image

Wednesday, January 10th, 2007

Hear that? That’s the sound of me throwing up. This is absolutely ridiculous!

Former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton are part of an initiative to create a new Baptist voice and improve the negative image of Baptists in North America.
An annual North American Baptist Fellowship meeting in Atlanta, Ga., was scheduled to conclude Tuesday morning at the Carter Center with the announcement of a historic 2008 convocation.

The convocation, part of Carter’s new Baptist voice initiative, is expected to draw more than 20,000 Baptist participants from throughout the United States and Canada in an effort to counter the negative and judgmental image of Baptists, according to the Associated Baptist Press.

“North America desperately needs a true Baptist witness,” Bill Underwood, president of Mercer University in Atlanta, told Baptist leaders at an April summit last year.

Underwood said the current image of Baptists is largely painted by conservative leaders who frequently appear on television news shows or other media. Such leaders represent some of the most conservative political views and fundamentalist theology among Baptist denominations.

According to Carter, the most common opinion about Baptists is that they cannot get along. Carter alluded to the schism the Southern Baptist Convention experienced two decades ago.

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Jefferson Had Quran to Know His Enemies

Wednesday, January 10th, 2007

Well, that was what was at the back of my mind when I read it. It would be nice if they (Islam) would just be our friends and leave us alone, but, it’s not going to happen. They are going to do everything they can to make sure the world is Islamic and only Islamic.

A Special Forces veteran and commentator says new Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison (Hakim-Mohammad) of Minnesota was absolutely right when he said Thomas Jefferson gleaned knowledge from the Quran – only it was knowledge about his enemies that Jefferson likely gleaned.

A report in the FreePress reported Ellison said the fact that Jefferson owned the book confirmed that it was “definitely an important historical document in our national history” and he said it “demonstrates that Jefferson was a broad visionary thinker who not only possessed a Quran, but read it.”

“It would have been something that contributed to his own thinking,” Ellison was quoted as saying.

In an interview with USINFO, Ellison spokesman Rick Jauert went further, saying the choice of Jefferson’s Quran was significant because it “dates religious tolerance back to the time of our founding fathers.”

“Jefferson was … one of the more profound thinkers of the time, who recognized even then that there was nothing to fear, and in fact there was strength in recognizing religious tolerance,” he said.

Ted Sampley, the publisher of U.S. Veteran Dispatch, agreed with Ellison, who used the Library of Congress Quran that Jefferson once owned for his ceremonial swearing-in to Congress, that Jefferson used the Quran for his own thinking, but not with the same result.

“There is no doubt Ellison was right about Jefferson believing wisdom could be ‘gleaned’ from the Muslim Quran,” Sampley writes. “At the time Jefferson owned the book, he needed to know everything possible about Muslims because he was about to advocate war against the Islamic ‘Barbary’ states of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli.”

He noted that over 10 centuries, Muslim pirates had cruised the African and Mediterranean coastline, pillaging villages and abducting slaves, mostly by making pre-dawn raids that left high casualty rates.

“It was typical of Muslim raiders to kill off as many of the ‘non-Muslim’ older men and women as possible so the preferred ‘booty’ of only young women could be collected,” he said. The women were sought for their value as concubines in Islamic markets.

“Boys, as young as 9 or 10 years old, were often mutilated to create eunuchs who would bring higher prices in the slave markets of the Middle East,” Sampley wrote.

When American colonists rebelled against the English in 1776, merchant ships from what later would be the United States lost British navy protection, and they were attacked “and their Christian crews enslaved by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the ‘Dey of Algiers’ – an Islamist warlord ruling Algeria.”

The Continental Congress then met in 1784 to talk about treaties with leaders of the region, and John Adams, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were appointed to oversee the work.

“Tribute” and “ransoms” first were paid to the Muslim slavers, and Adams argued that was the cheapest way to get commerce moving, Sampley wrote. But Jefferson was opposed, proposing a settlement of the issue “through the medium of war.”

Sampley writes that two years later, when Jefferson was ambassador to France, and Adams was ambassador to Britain, they met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the ambassador to Britain from the “Dey of Algiers.”

Seeking a peace treaty, based on Congress’ vote to pay tribute, the two Americans asked Dey’s ambassador why Muslims had so much hostility towards America. They later reported to Congress the ambassador told them Islam “was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

Sampley notes that for years the American government paid Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages, but not long after Jefferson’s inauguration in 1801, he dispatched the USS Constitution, USS Constellation, USS Philadelphia, USS Chesapeake, USS Argus, USS Syren and USS Intrepid to the Mediterranean.

Jefferson’s first presidency coincided with what generally is called the Barbary Wars running from approximately 1801-1805. That year the Marines marched from Egypt into Tripolitania, freeing Americans held there as slaves, he wrote.

Gary DeMar, president of AmericanVision.org, added his endorsement of Sampley’s interpretation of history.

DeMar cites Joseph Wheelan’s book, “Jefferson’s War: America’s First War on Terror,” in noting Jefferson said, “Too long, for the honor of nations, have those Barbarians been [permitted] to trample on the sacred faith of treaties, on the rights and laws of human nature!”

DeMar notes that research treatise concludes that, “Jefferson’s war pitted a modern republic with a free-trade, entrepreneurial creed against a medieval autocracy whose credo was piracy and terror. It matched an ostensibly Christian nation against an avowed Islamic one that professed to despise Christians.”

“Wheelan’s historical assessment of the time is on target,” DeMar noted. “‘Except for its Native American population and a small percentage of Jews, the United States was solidly Christian, while the North African regencies were just as solidly Muslim – openly hostile toward Christians.'”

“So what did Jefferson learn from the Quran? …Unless a nation submitted to Islam, whether it was the aggressor or not, that nation was by definition at war with Islam. It’s no wonder that Jefferson studied the Quran. He realized that if Americans ever capitulated, the Muslims would be singing ‘From the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of A-mer-i-ca,'” DeMar concluded.

As WND has reported Ellison has allowed his supporters to shout, “Allahu Akbar!,” the same phrase allegedly used by the 9/11 suicide pilots, he’s spoken to various Islamic groups, he’s used that Quran to be sworn into office, but he hasn’t responded to WND requests to confirm he will base his decisions on the laws of the U.S. on the Constitution, not the Quran.

He has confirmed that “in terms of political agenda items, my faith informs these things.”

Jauert confirmed to WND that the congressman does not believe there will be a conflict between his religious beliefs and his duty under the U.S. Constitution.

But when asked which would take priority if there is a conflict, or to describe how the congressman will resolve the differing philosophies provided by the U.S. Constitution and the Quran, which calls for beheading “infidels,” he said he could not answer immediately.

One blogger was a little concerned over the situation:

“During the victory celebration for the nation’s first Muslim congressman (not that there’s anything wrong with that… in principle), Congressman Keith Ellison’s supporters scream ‘Allahu Akbar!’, the same phrase that the 9/11 hijackers screamed, the same phrase suicide bombers scream, the same phrase head choppers scream before slicing off the heads of hapless and bound victims. May God protect this country,” the blogger wrote.

WND also has reported Ellison has been linked to a radical Islamic school of thought that requires loyalty to the Quran over the U.S. Constitution.

A black convert to orthodox Sunni Islam, Ellison spoke to the North American Imams Federation, or NAIF, at the group’s Nov. 19 conference in Minneapolis.

His talk flowed into a breakout session listed on the agenda simply as “American Open University,” according to the conference program. It turns out the university is a “distance-learning” center based in Alexandria, Va., and known to local law enforcement as “Wahhabi Online.”

Later that day, Ellison met with NAIF’s president, Omar Ahmad Shahin, who lectures at the same American Open University. (He also met at the time with New York imam Siraj Wahhaj, an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.) The radical Islamic school trains many of NAIF’s more than 150 members, who control mosques across America.

American Open University supports Sharia, or Islamic law. And its founder and chairman, Jaafar Sheikh Idris, has denounced the U.S system of democracy as “the antithesis of Islam” and argued no man has the right to make laws outside Allah’s laws expressed in the Quran.

Ellison’s campaign also was backed by the Washington-based lobby group Council on American-Islamic Relations, a partner organization to American Open University-affiliated NAIF. CAIR held fundraisers for Ellison, a civil-rights lawyer and one-time acolyte of Louis Farrakhan who admits to making anti-Semitic remarks in the past (under various alias including Keith Hakim, Keith Ellison-Muhammad and Keith X Ellison).

CAIR’s founder has argued the Quran should replace the Constitution as the highest authority in the land. The group’s director of communications, moreover, has expressed his desire to see the U.S. become an Islamic state.

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“Cut and Run” by Cox & Forkum

Wednesday, January 10th, 2007

OK, I know everyone is tired of the war in Iraq, but the dems have only one plan of action for getting out…Cut and Run. Now if the president doesn’t go that way, they are going to cut off funding to the troops. Now it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who that type of thing is going to hurt. It’s only going to hurt the troops. Do not, repeat, do not let your congressperson or senator cut off funding to the troops. It is not their fault, so they should not be punished.
This is typical dem logic by the way. Kinda makes it dim dem logic.

Cur and Run

From CNN: Democrats considering ways to block escalation of war.

As President Bush prepares to announce an increase in the number of U.S. troops fighting in Iraq, some Democrats say they would consider blocking funding for the escalation.

When asked whether Congress would consider cutting off the funds, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, “We’re going take a look at it, of course.”

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, said his “office is now investigating what tools are available to us to condition or constrain appropriations” for the surge in troops. But he cautioned he doesn’t want troops already in Iraq to be “shortchanged.”

“So it creates a difficult situation for Democrats,” he said.

Aware of this concern, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, told reporters at a Capitol news conference Monday, “Democrats will not cut off funding for our troops.”

But, an aide later explained, the speaker is open to restricting money for the escalation, after hearings on the president’s new plan.

“We will always support the troops who are there,” Pelosi said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday. But, Pelosi added, “If the president wants to expand the mission, that’s a conversation he has to have with the Congress of the United States.

But that’s not … a blank check to him to do whatever he wishes there.”

Bush is scheduled to introduce his new Iraq strategy Wednesday night.

From CNN: Soldiers tell Gates more troops needed in Iraq.

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